Comments on: The Norway Vote - What really happened

By: Schoschie

Schoschie — Fri, 23 May 2008 17:43:47 +0000

This makes me sick to the bone, and very angry. If those people are corrupt, who can we still trust? What good are our governemnts if they don’t fight this kind of manipulation?

I highly respect you for speaking up. What a farce!

By: Barnhard Blog » Blog Archive » Getting a wrong standard

Barnhard Blog » Blog Archive » Getting a wrong standard — Tue, 20 May 2008 21:35:42 +0000

[...] a bureaucrat decide those who have knowledge regarding standards, should leave the room, and then decide whatever he wants. There were 30 in the bed and the little one said, “Roll [...]

By: Manuel Obtuso

Manuel Obtuso — Fri, 09 May 2008 22:13:13 +0000

Here in Portugal they were smarter. The people who would vote ‘No’ were refused entrance in the meeting because (they said) there were not enough chairs!

By: A c d r t u x » Blog Archive » La verdadera historia jamás contada del voto noruego

Thu, 08 May 2008 13:31:53 +0000

[...] su blog, Steve nos cuenta lo que realmente pasó en dos partes estremecedoras. Os animo a leer esta primera parte que me permito traducir de una forma [...]

By: Nobody Can Improve Open Source? » diehealthy.org » Blog Archive

Nobody Can Improve Open Source? » diehealthy.org » Blog Archive — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 16:52:39 +0000

[...] bundled with it. Microsoft does not give away liberty in developing countries. In fact, they don’t even allow liberty to exist in Norway if they can help it. With open source software, on the other hand, “there is this thing [...]

By: About My Days » Blog Archive » links for 2008-04-24

About My Days » Blog Archive » links for 2008-04-24 — Thu, 24 Apr 2008 06:05:54 +0000

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By: Smári´s blag :: Norways vote on OOXML

Smári´s blag :: Norways vote on OOXML — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:29:25 +0000

[...] OOXML got a ‘yes’ vote from Norway. Here is why. It is amazing what power bureaucrats have over the decision making process of allegedly democratic [...]

By: Bithead

Bithead — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:53:23 +0000

OOXML isn’t as much a “standard” is it is a test. If you think OOXML is open and that its XML, you prove that don’t have any understanding of either. This process has established that ISO can be easily hijacked, and its usefulness as a standards body is significantly tarnished in the eyes of the professional community.

From the ISO website: “When standards are absent, we soon notice.” Not this time, apparently, since a complete fraud was passed as the standard.

By: Damian Cugley

Damian Cugley — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 10:35:40 +0000

I guess this is where the mechanism of deciding by consensus breaks down: it only works for uncontroversial decisions.

Rather than lack of consensus leading to reducing the number of people in the meeting, a better approach might be to *increase* the number of people so that there are enough that it seems reasonable to decide by vote. In other words, defer the decision until some kind of large general meeting.

I think the OOXML mess should be viewed as an opportunity to review the procedural rules of the various standards committees so that they degrade gracefully in difficult conditions, rather than exploding.

By: Rob

Rob — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 08:40:05 +0000

Pretty amazing that this happened this way…